Discussion 3 Notes: The Futures

Discussion 3
The Futures

Warm-Up: Were there any points in the reading you found interesting or took an issue with?
The reading focused on schools being similar to free market business, and if public schools are adequately teaching our students.

Discussion Questions
1)Should schools be operated under the same ideas as a free market business?
– The class agreed that if schools were solely ran like free markets then maybe schools would strive towards being the most appealing, which would improve many schools, but there would always be the “winners” and “losers”; the schools that are not appealing to many would lose and it would effect the students that attend that school.
– If public schools were ran like free markets then parents would obviously choose the better schools, the ones that seem more appealing, therefore hurting the less appealing schools.

2) Do you agree with the statement that “because public schools faced no meaningful competition from private schools, they were inefficient and inadequate” (p. 59)? Why or why not? Which school would you prefer for your children?
– The class agreed that public schools do have competition among other public schools, therefore they are adequate schools. They are competing for better test scores then other schools, also they are striving to get their scores up so that they can meet the standards.
3) On page 58 it says “they [the students] would learn tolerance and respect for the diverse people and different points of view in the country.” Do you believe that children learn respect for the diverse people and different points of view in American schools? Why or why not?
– With this question some students agreed that public schools are diverse and they teach different points of view, they also said that they are much more diverse than private schools which are predominantly rich White Americans. However, some disagreed and said that their public school had little to no diversity, and that their school did not teach much diversity either.

Discussion Ender:
“The education marketplace acts pretty much the way most free markets do- people with money; information; the “right” social class, ethnicity, or gender; and powerful personal connections have access to “better” goods.”
– The class agreed with this ender, if you have money you can give your children the best education. The education marketplace favors the rich.

MB team 5 Discussion

Discussion Questions

1) Do you think if children are forced to learn certain information or are “drilled incessantly” on separate letters and separate words, will they be less likely to think critically?

2) Should teachers start teaching the “long term goals” in order to promote children? What do long term goals mean to you?

3) Do you agree with Dewey’s perception on teaching? Or do you agree with Piaget’s?

4) Do you think this chart accurately represents how society functions today? In regards to education?

Kohn pg 115-123 Discussion

1) Do you think if childern are forced to learn certain information or are “drilled incessantly” on seperate letters and seperate words will they be less likely to think critically?

2) Should teachers start teaching the “long term goals” in order to promote children? What do long term goals mean to you?

3) Do you agree with Dewey’s perception on teaching or do you agree with Piaget’s?

4) Do you think this chart acuratelty represents how society functions today in regards to education?

Main Points from dicussion on 2/5/14

  • Class thinks students should be taught in a small group or 1 on 1 to implememnt resouces that can help them get ahead and get a better understanding.
  • Teachers should be evaluated by the students and parents to make sure that they are doing their jobs correctly if not to train them more and if they still cant perform their job duties have them terminated.
  • Class believed that attendence should and should not matter depending on what kind of class it is and if the student is an independent learner.

Discussion Questions

Ls 300 SP14

 

Group 5:

 

Ciara

Tsehaye

Cory

Carmen

Sarah

Melissa

 

                                                Discussion Questions

 

  1. Do you think this new method of teaching is an effective one? Do you feel as if education has evolved to focus on a more goal oriented path or has it stayed on a one-track path to benefit industries?

 2.     “Our schools are not doing an adequate job of education for today’s requirements in the work place, much less tomorrow’s.”  Do you agree with this statement?

 3.     “Economic advancement is the engine that is driving the present school reform movement.”-Woods

 How does this bold statement make you feel as a present day student?

4.    Do you think at CSUMB our school structures have stuck with the utilitarian    beliefs that instill obedience and conformity or evolved into a democracy where we are all independent thinkers?